Does your drive belt look like this? It may have ended up this way because of incorrect CVT adjustment, this page may help you to set up your CVT.

How do I remove the clutch unit so I can replace the Drive Belt?

Click this link for a video showing you how.

Primary Clutch Removal Video

 As with all CVT transmissions when fitting a new belt, all adjustments must be checked and may require adjustments to clutching units, otherwise it can result in premature belt failure and/or poor performance. 

In other words, you can't just throw a new belt on and hope its adjusted right, you will have to make adjustments. Now for the bad news the Mammoth clutch is not adjustable. Now for the good news, it can be modified so that all the correct adjustments can be made. Now for the bad news it requires having some parts machined and a couple of different specialized tools.

But before we get into all that it's good to know some basic belt/clutch stuff!

Below is some info from Gates, it pertains to snowmobiles but Mammoth basically has the same set up.

 

  Optimizing belt fit in the clutch system
   
  Belt fit must be correct to achieve maximum performance from a snowmobile and to avoid declutching problems. The following report from Gates Corporation focuses on these variables.

Problems with belt length

 

For the snowmobile clutch system to work efficiently, belt and pulley geometry must be correct. If the belt is too long, for example, the extra belt length will cause the belt to ride higher in the primary pulley. The net effect is that the starting gear ratio will be significantly reduced and the sled will feel like it is starting in second gear (see Fig. 1). In the high speed condition, a long belt will not shift to the smallest diameter in the secondary pulley, causing a loss in top speed. Significant maladjustment can truly be like starting in second gear and loosing overdrive - both at the same time! 

 


Fig. 1 Effect of belt length on "gear" ratio.

A belt that is too long for a drive may result when the belt's construction reaches its maximum tolerance limits. Belts designed by different manufacturers may fit an application differently, but the most likely cause will be a worn belt. A worn belt may have a narrower top width which makes the belt seem longer to the system. A "long" belt may not even be a function of the belt - it can result from an out-of-tolerance center distance adjustment or pulley adjustments made for some other belt. 

"Short" belt symptoms

The occurrence of a "short" belt is less common than belts that are too long. This condition can result from using an improper belt, from a short tolerance belt or from a long tolerance center distance. Assuming that the belt is adjusted to permit de-clutching, a short belt can exhibit symptoms very similar to a belt that is too long. A short belt will ride lower in the secondary pulley (see Fig. 1) leading to a lower "gear" ratio and lower acceleration. At high speed, the short belt will ride lower in the primary pulley resulting in speed loss. If pulled too far down in the secondary pulley, one of two problems may occur depending on the design of the secondary pulley: 

  • On some secondary pulleys, belt travel is limited by a "shelf" at the bottom of the groove (see Fig. 2). If the belt is pulled down on this "shelf" all wedging is lost and the belt will go into drastic slip and perhaps instability.

     

     
    Fig. 2 

  • Some secondary pulley designs feature tapered sidewalls that become vertical at the bottom. If the belt is pulled below the tapered surfaces, significant damage to the undercord material will generally occur.

Check for proper fit

The following paragraphs describe the adjustments necessary to obtain maximum performance. The manufacturer's recommended settings should be used, if available. If these values are not available, the values in the following paragraphs are generally accepted for most applications. 

  • The belt deflection adjustment, often referred to as setting the "tension," is done to assure that there is sufficient belt length in the drive to allow the belt to properly de-clutch. For this adjustment, the belt should be easily deflected 1-1/4 inches (no more than 10 pounds force). Significantly less deflection can cause declutching problems while larger deflections can mean that the belt is too long. This could cause slow acceleration and loss of top speed.

     

     
    Photo A - Side clearance on the primary
    pulley can be measured with feeler gauges
    and should be at least .020 inches for proper
    de-clutching. Values more than .060 inches
    can cause slow acceleration. 

     

  • Side clearance between the belt and primary pulley can be measured with feeler gauges inserted between the belt surface of the pulley and the sidewall of the belt (see photo A). Too little clearance will cause excessive rubbing between the belt and the pulley when the drive is declutched, while excessive clearance can cause harsh engagement during the clutching operation. Excessive clearance also can upset the relationship of the clutch weights to the spider in the primary pulley and result in clutching calibration problems. The clearance should be at least .020 inches for proper declutching; values over .060 can cause performance degradation.  
  • Belt ride in the secondary pulley should be measured with the belt fully seated in the pulley, after the drive has been operated over a part of its speed range and then run in the declutched position for a few seconds. Most manufacturers recommend that the top of the belt ride close to the outside of the pulley. It should not ride in or out of the pulley more than 1/16 inch when first adjusted (see photo B) and should be readjusted when it reaches 1/8 inch. Too much ride-in will reduce the overall gear ratio and too much ride-out can cause belt damage or belt turnover.

     


    Photo B - Most manufacturers recommend
    that the top of the belt ride as close to the
    outside of the pulley. It should not ride in or
    out of the pulley more than 1/16 inch.

     

    Adjusting belt fit

    Most clutch systems allow adjustment for belt fit. This is usually accomplished by adjusting the secondary pulley halves spacing -- either with shims or mechanical adjustment mechanisms. Center distance adjustment can correct some fit problems but should only be done as a last resort. This can lead to misalignment between the primary and secondary pulleys, drastically reducing belt life. Additionally, center distance adjustments should only be made within the tolerances specified by the sled manufacturer. 

    Always adjust for the highest ride possible in the secondary pulley to get the best low gear possible, but avoid tightening so much that belt has difficulty de-clutching. This also can cause excessive wear on the bottom of the belt. 

    Many belt fit problems can be traced to a severely worn belt (see photo C). Normally, top-width wear in excess of 1/8 inch is too much. 

     


    Photo C - As a general rule, a belt that looks
    "well-used" should be replaced - both for
    maximum drive efficiency and
    for the security of not having to change
    a belt out in the snow.

Adjusting Belt Deflection

This is about the correct amount of deflection (1 1/4) that the belt should have, this is after adjustments had been made. I forgot to take a picture of belt before I made the adjustments .... it defected about 2.5"!

 

To purchase a Clutch Removal Tool check this link Tools.

To get this deflection I had to machine off around 2mm (about 5/64th) from front surface of the clutch in picture below.

How do you take the secondary clutch off ?

Purchase a Clutch Removal Tool design to do the job, check this link Tools.

How do you take it apart? Just like in the pictures below.

 

 

To take the secondary or driven clutch apart follow the steps in the picture.

Use a press to push down on clutch for circlip removal.

or purchase a Clutch Compression Tool at this link Tools.

Clean the inside of clutch, remove old grease from bushings. DO NOT put grease on bushings. Do use a small amount of Anti-seize on splines ( I'm sorry I didn't take any pictures of this part, I will take some more and then post)

This is where you have to machine some of this face to get the .  I took off about 2mm but only because I did not have any shims on hand (I do now) otherwise, I would have taken off around 3mm and then made the fine adjustments with the shims.

To check the deflection, temporarily reassemble clutch without the spring and refit to the machine and check deflection as in picture. Make sure you hold the secondary clutch halves together, I used a small C clamp.

Adjusting Primary Clutch.

 

Check belt to pulley clearance. This is too much clearance, around 5 mm (3/16+-). Check and measure your clutch pulley/belt clearance (as shown in photo A in Gates Belt Information). Note measurement and deduct .508mm (.020) from your clearance measurement, this is the amount that the clutch needs to be adjusted. 

Dismantle, clutch and machine off the front of the spider (the spider is the thing with three legs in the center of clutch) the amount of needed adjustment.  When dismantling mark all parts so the clutch goes back together the way it came apart. Reassemble clutch and refit with belt and recheck clearance. If clearance is still too much, machine some more off. If you have taken off too much add some shims to machined face for correct clearance.

With trans in neutral turn secondary clutch by hand while the primary clutch remains stationary and make sure the belt turns freely around primary clutch pulley without grabbing.  If it grabs add shims. Whatever amount is removed from the spider has to be added to the main spring, this can be done by adding shims under the main spring.

To purchase a Clutch Removal Tool check this link Tools.

  

              Machining of Spider                          Belt/Pulley Clearance after Adjustment

  

Check that the weights move freely. Check shaft and bushings for burrs.

DO NOT use Grease on bushings.

Send us your Secondary or Primary clutch and we will dismantle, clean, machine and fit shims for deflection and spider adjustment for $135 for both plus shipping. Includes a HD Drive Belt.

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Send us your clutches and we will machine and adjust both clutches correctly and return them to you. Comes with a HD Drive Belt. Turn around time is normally 1 day. Pack them so they cannot make contact with each other and cause damage to pulley faces. Include a copy of your invoice with shipment.

We have a clutch compression tools if you don't have a press to service and make adjustments to clutch. We also have pullers to remove the clutches see our Tools page.

Inner Primary Clutch Removal Video

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